#008: Healthy Bodies and Mindsets During a Crisis w/ Kathryn Benko.

Kathryn Benko wants you to stop shaming yourself during the COVID-19 crisis. 

“We have to accept that this isn’t normal and proceed from that place,” Kathryn comments, setting the stage for a grace-filled approach to fitness. “Our bodies need to adjust to this season...we may need more rest, even more ice cream!” 

The high-powered personal trainer, coach, and founder of solefitness.org knows that everything has changed because of this crisis; that includes our personal fitness routines. 

So, what does it look like to maintain a healthy mindset towards our bodies and maintain our health during this crisis?

Check out this week's episode of the Live the More podcast to hear Kathryn’s journey towards a healthy relationship with her body and how we can actually enjoy moving during this season of self-isolation. And be sure to go over to solefitness.org and use the code “stillstuck” to get your first month of online training for free!

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Transcript

spk_1:   0:03
Welcome to the live. The more podcast will re explore going deeper and intimacy with God, finding meaning and satisfaction in our day and making a lasting impact in our world. Hello. I am Alison with live the more and I'm so excited to have Catherine Banco of Soul Fitness joining us on the podcast. Katherine is a coach and speaker who seeks to redefine women's relationships with fitness, food and their bodies through group classes, personal training and online training at Seoul Fitness. Catherine, thanks so much for being here.

spk_0:   0:41
Thanks for having me. This is crazy. That were like, talking from across the world.

spk_1:   0:45
I love it. It's nighttime here. And it's what? Lunchtime. There. It's like 2 30 of middle of the afternoon. Well, welcome to our key thing. Thanks

spk_0:   0:58
for having me. It's awesome.

spk_1:   1:00
Yeah, well, I would love for you to tell us a little bit about yourself.

spk_0:   1:05
Yeah. Um well, I All the things you said, I'm a coach, and, um, I started a business called Soul Fitness. Um, which I have Ah. It comes from a very negative relationship that I had for years with my body and with fitness and food and and I ended up for about 3 to 4 years living in this very negative cycle of disordered eating and, um, struggling because I'm hearing who my identity is in Christ. But I'm not believing it, um, for myself. And I'm not treating my body the way that I know I should be treating it. So that's kind of, um, after years of healing, that's kind of household fitness was born because I wanted to. I wanted to get women out of that trap because it's I found that as I was telling people my story and I would start sharing what I was going through, I found that like most women have some sort of like tug of war, it struggles with their bodies and whether it results in an eating disorder or not, it's It's always kind of this, like Evan Flow like Do I like my body? Do I not? Um And so once I realized that this was, like so much more common, I wanted to create a safe space for fitness and take out the pressure and perfectionism in it and just let him be something that week enjoy again, and that we're doing because um because we love it. Not because we're feeling like we have to look uncertain This that and core game, this certain status in our body image, you know? So that's kind of that's not necessarily who I am as a whole. But that's a big piece. I'm also, um, muscle wife and a dog. Mom, we live in a way live in Wilmington, North Carolina. But I'm a Texas girl and from Dallas, Texas. Um, 31. And we are just figuring out life as we dio and ex trying to figure out this quarantine. Especially as we go. Uh uh, Yeah, it's hard to, like Answer who you are. Those that do you think? Like, what am I?

spk_1:   3:18
Yeah, you sum that up in such a short of, you know,

spk_0:   3:21
it was great. I'm like, sweating.

spk_1:   3:25
Yeah. No, I love it. And I love what you said about, um, just learning to enjoy fitness and being on that journey of really, um, understanding your identity, but not truly believing it. And then, um, being on a journey of living that out,

spk_0:   3:45
I had this, like, battle for so many years because that, you know, I was I'm a believer And I was like in the church. And I was, you know, doing all the things like I was in community, agree about going to prayer groups. I was going to church every Sunday, and I was having this relationship with God, but then hiding this whole other reason, me and I was like, you know, miserable because of that. So I think, like any time you experience freedom, you kind of are drawn and become more passionate towards that subject. That's just what happened with me and fitness and and food. So yeah.

spk_1:   4:19
Yeah, that's beautiful. So what brought you to a level of fitness where your I mean of freedom, where you're not only able to enjoy your own fitness, but you're you're helping other people walk in that freedom as well?

spk_0:   4:32
Um, we lost it. The short answer is the Lord, but it all started with, um I was living in Dallas at the time when I was really abusing fitness and abusing my body. Essentially, I was going to this church called the Village Church, and, um, I was like I said, like in a community group and doing all the things that hiding that part of me. And there was this one Sunday at church where I just like hot enough. Like I was feeling like I I was kind of I had two identities and who was heavy, and it was just I feel like I was living this, like lie. And so is that church one Sunday and this song this worship song started playing. Um, it's called Come To Me by Lauren Chandler and it really is just I'm gonna butcher this probably. But paraphrase it's like Bring all your burdens to me. Come to me if you're heavy late it and I'll give you rest. And I was like, I need that. And so I literally just, like, started crying and went up to the front. You know, I get church. They have, like people at the front on the stage to pray with you again, you prefer. So I just went up to this, like, stranger up front, and I said for the first time, like I think I have an eating disorder. Once I said that it's amazing what bringing something to light will do for like, it'll just squash sin because once I said that I was like, ready to take the next step. And so I went to counseling, and then eventually I found that my place to hell was gonna be Wilmington. So I end up moving to a new place and having a fresh start. And just like through finding community and Wilmington, I have found a lot of it in fitness, and I made a promise to myself that I would share my story up front in order to be held accountable in that and because it's easy for me to slip back into negative thoughts. And so what? I made friends. Zero share my story. And I just found so many women were like, same like, you know, it's on some levels. Name me, too. And so that's what I was like. You need it when you could just do something about this and make a little movement here in this in this city and see what happens.

spk_1:   6:51
Yeah, I love that. You said just going in, sharing that burden with someone and bringing that to light um, really open the doors for next steps for you, and then here you are, sharing that with others in its opening doors for others

spk_0:   7:10
Yeah, I hope so. I mean, I think back on like, people's stories who have touched mine and it's it's really just like someone being bold and brave enough to be like, I'm not okay, you know? And then you're like, Oh, me neither. And you kind of all realize we're all just figuring it all out together and yeah, it opens up a new level of Greece for everyone. So

spk_1:   7:36
and I feel like that overlap so well with this crisis is it's so easy to see on instagram or on social media that maybe some people have it all together, figured out and and yet you might be struggling with anxiety or fear or just overwhelmed with the unknown of what's next and yeah, and just to share that of like, Hey, I'm I'm struggling here.

spk_0:   8:08
Yeah, I think that we as women and I mean I only know because I'm a woman. I'm sure everyone experiences like this level of comparison that just it really does steal your joy. And we can do that with body image. Or we could do that with this quarantine like you look at how someone on Instagram is so like supposedly living out this quarantine with, like, a healthy routine and balance and a positive mindset, like teaching and mothering and doing their job. And you're like, I just ate a whole pint of Ben and Jerry's and cried myself to sleep. Well,

spk_1:   8:49
yeah, I want to talk about that for a minute because here we are in the midst of this global crisis and we're trying to figure out not only how to survive, but we We want to thrive in the season, and yet it's so new. And there's so much transition. And there's so much, um, grief at a global level that I don't think anyone's really experienced before in this, at least in this time period. And so, um, so I can imagine that there's a lot of responses and a lot of just emotions and feelings flying around everywhere. Um, so in this, I would love to hear what you would recommend. Um, and what your thoughts are for, How do we a me How do we have a healthy mind set towards ourselves in in the midst of this crisis?

spk_0:   9:46
Um, I read something the other day, so this is not original, but it really struck me Well, first and foremost, I think we need to, like, give ourselves Grace and because this isn't normal and we are very routine generation. So when I were Tina struck, our control seems lost. And then we really have to, like, restructure like everything. So it's not normal. So we need to give ourselves Grace. But I read something the other day in relation to our bodies and fitness and even our diets right now, because I'm sure mine's different. I don't know about yours, but I'm just like alcohol, and I don't have that retain some sacking more. I'm having finding a lot of comfort and food. And anyway, this thing said that our bodies were created for different seasons. Who, and this is like a season that we're very not used to her very unknown. But our bodies are adjusting to this season and are we're having to give it what they need because it's so different. So like, right now, maybe our bodies do need more rest. Or maybe they do need more. Um, I scream or you

spk_1:   11:00
know, whatever. And

spk_0:   11:01
like knowing, you know, like knowing that our bodies might change during the season. but we're changing. All were always changing in every season. Both physically, spiritually. So, like, right now is a season where it's just gotta be grace filled in it. And we have to like, almost except that this isn't normal and and go from that place instead of putting pressure on ourselves to be who we are when we're in our normal day to day.

spk_1:   11:27
Yeah, no. Yeah, that's so good. Yeah. So our bodies in different seasons and those seasons might have different needs.

spk_0:   11:37
Yeah, they need They just need different things. And it's okay to comfort. It's OK if if you experience comfort right now from, um a good you know, meal or a glass of wine with your husband at night, then like to me, that's what your body needs. You know, like you're gonna listen listen enough to know, like a my being gluttonous, or am I abusing this, but also, like, give yourself the grace of like, this is just a different time Thing is what it's asking for right now, so I need to feed it.

spk_1:   12:10
Okay. So what are you enjoying for comfort right now?

spk_0:   12:14
Oh, my God. All the things I am obsessed right now. Well, I mean, I do, I do. I do make movement a priority, and that has really kept me saying, But it comes when it comes to food. I'm obsessed with peanut butter filled pretzels. Right now it is like everything to me.

spk_1:   12:33
Okay, I think I saw that on Instagram on your instagram. But

spk_0:   12:37
I am having them every day like

spk_1:   12:40
I go

spk_0:   12:40
in and I pick up a scoop like it's just, you know, celery, you know, like I pick it up. And I didn't like him between every appointment. I'm like there's a stick of France. Yes, um, and then my husband's making making fun of me a little bit because I have had ice cream, like every night for the last two weeks, but whatever.

spk_1:   13:00
So what do you feel like that gives you to be able to eat the pretzels anyth ice cream in this time?

spk_0:   13:07
You know, I think for me it's a sense of for me it personally for because of my story. For me, it's like freeing to be in the crab a pretzel and to grab some ice cream at night without guilt. Okay, because I used to carry so much shame with everything that I ate. Um, I also think right now during this season, like what it brings is like funny moments with my husband and I more, you know, like it doesn't necessarily revolver. Sometimes food creates, like, really good experience. So, like it's creating experience of like us binging a show and like eating out of the same ice cream pie, you know, and that's like a moment that we're doing right now in this quarantine. And it's it's like it brings love and I just think it That's the comfort I'm kind of seeking right now.

spk_1:   14:00
Yeah, I think I can totally relate to that, because I think when anxiety hits me the most, it's when I'm thinking of the unknowns in the future and stuff to just connect to the present and, like what is more, you know, grounding than just enjoying something with your senses, Harry and I think Teoh. It's almost like this resistance to the fear, at least for me. It's a resistance to fear to just enjoy something and to take pleasure and something in the present, because at this point it feels like that's what we have like, Yeah, this is what we know is today and right in front of me. And so

spk_0:   14:44
I'm like, the future is so unknown right now. Yeah. No, it's like All right, well, I'm gonna do what I can with today. I know that I've read a lot and and I've also had these thoughts a lot of if you have trouble with body image specifically in the past. Um, And specifically, like, if you if you've struggled with disordered eating in any way than this quarantine is extra difficult PMP as people who thrive or who heal and thrive after being, um after being in disorder meeting, they thrive on routine and, like, kind of building out a healthier routine. And so when our routine get squashed, our thoughts go back. Teoh turning to food during anxiety Not for comfort, but for just like, um, almost, like abuse, like overeating or under eating, thinking about everything they're eating and writing it down because they have so much more time. Yeah, So I think that if your expiry, if you're listening to this and you're experiencing those triggers, then there is, like, one. That's okay. Like you're not alone and to, like, take a step back and like and take a deep breath, Pray about it right down. Like what are I heard something in a sermon today. Like reorder your loves, reorder your priorities. So go back, Teoh. Kind of that center right down your priorities during this time and like No, that, like, your priority needs to be, um, keeping yourself healthy. Whoa. Seems like the whole world is unhealthy, you know? So I don't know if that made any sense, but I just want to give grace someone who has had an eating disorder and is struggling with the going backwards to those thoughts like,

spk_1:   16:29
Yeah, you

spk_0:   16:31
know, that's probably happening to a lot of people right now.

spk_1:   16:35
Yeah, there's someone I know who is sharing that. He's seen a rise in even people who have struggled in the past with substance abuse. Because of this loss of control in a loss of routine, there's just a lot of struggle right now is going back to past Mm

spk_0:   16:56
Oh, for sure. Like be alcohol, alcohol, ensure. That's like a big trigger right now, too, because your home all day there's something about being over here in high enormous takes away the accountability that you would normally experience in your daily routine. So I'm sure people are slipping back and Yongle addictions or bad habits that they had, you know?

spk_1:   17:21
And so you were saying for a person who might be feeling out of control or feeling or even struggling with fees, things to reorder priorities and to prioritize staying healthy?

spk_0:   17:36
Yeah, and I It sounds like it sounds like a command, but I just think it's it's benefited me to, like, write down even like writing out a schedule. So my schedule obviously looks different now that I'm home and I'm not able to go on train people. But riding out a schedule like I'm very I'm obviously much more type paid. I don't know if you could hand you could hear that in my butt, But, like right on schedule, like Okay, at 7 a.m. Maybe I'm gonna wake up later. So at 7 a.m. I'm gonna journal. Yeah, at 8 a.m. I'm gonna go for a walk at 9 a.m. I'm gonna work on this project and like and like, almost reordering that priority makes you not turn to food as a source of, like, stress and that, like, order it into what is important to me right now, if that makes sense Oh, no, I'm not gonna like verbalizing, not just make some of since my

spk_1:   18:35
and so really trying to capture your values and what's essential to you through a schedule.

spk_0:   18:44
Yeah, And knowing that, like, um, knowing that if your body does change right now, let's say you do gain weight. That doesn't make you any less worthy, you know, like, yeah, for your bodies. The number on a scale which, if you own one, just go ahead and throw that away. First of all, but the number on the scale, it does not define your word. And if it if you're if the number on the scale goes up during this time, that doesn't take away who you are and whose you are like it doesn't take away your identity. So just taking that pressure off ourselves of putting identity around are our weight. You

spk_1:   19:25
Yeah, I can relate to that. I feel like I have seen this and idea that we should really use this time well into the fullest. And, um, I have caught myself thinking like when I emerge. I want to be in really great shape and 10 and you know, like I'm thinking of all the projects that I want to dio And yet, like they're not happening and it's it's more about like, Okay, let's get through today let's feed the kids. Let's make sure they're okay if I can shower and take a walk like those air winds. And so there is this There is this pressure, I think, to maximize this time and and to want to control it and then at the same time, to to still struggle with that and to still have the strap on the anxiety and to need to rest and to meteo e ice cream on the couch with your husband.

spk_0:   20:34
Yeah, I think you actually worded it much better. Like reorder instead of reordering your priorities. Like what? Our winds to you right now, Who and what in the winds to you right now are different than what they would be on your normal routine. You know? So, yeah, right when it's like, maybe it's going on a walk every day. You know, I'm not your movement. That's good. And that's great. you're getting vitamin vitamin D

spk_1:   21:04
that that's so good. So what are your winds like, what would what in your day would be a win for you if you could check that off each day.

spk_0:   21:13
Um, for me, personally, I, um, win for me is movement. So I were lucky enough that I run my business from my home. So we have equipment and the essentially havoc of mini gym in our house. I'm not actually, like, feeling very thankful for that right now, because we're able to keep that consistency and movement and like, uh, because that's very important to both my Michael and myself. We have made that a priority daily together, which is fun. You never get to exercise in their get up. So that's a priority for me. I do a lot of personal training with for my job, and I I love it so much because it's like one on one relationships and that people are coming in and out of my home every day. But now obviously they can. So I've been making a point for people who are signed up for personal training to still give them that through face time or zoom and give them that virtual experience at a discount, but still give them that interaction and for me and so life giving because it's like those that bring me joy, those conversations with women throughout the day. So that's a priority. And then figuring out what's a priority in my business to, um, like what right now needs to be done and what could be put on hold until until all this is over and we get back to some sense of normalcy. Um, And then my home and I have tried Teoh tried is the key word here. Instead of like, Benji as much Netflix, which we did work sweet like a lot. I think they watch one show in like two days were like, we've lost our minds. So we have been watching sermons or listening to a worship music in studio tonight while we dinner. And that just has, like, rewarded, Are it? Yeah, we ordered our love's in the sense that, like, are we have peace and we go to bed, you know, And, um, it kind of reset, like going to bed with peace wakes you up with peace, you know? So it just kind of sets up for a healthier day for us. And obviously we're not perfect like we fall short and we'll watch. And that's like show every now and then. Like I started Tiger King yesterday got me. But that's kind of been my schedule as it lay gree. Yeah, it's just different. Like I'm used to being slammed, and I thrive on dizziness and I'm having a hard time with not being as busy. So that's why I like to fill in my time.

spk_1:   23:53
Yes, yeah, And so you're doing meaningful work. You're figuring out what needs to get done and what needs to be put on hold for your business. Um, you're still connecting with people, and then you're you're having shared, um, experience. If your husband, I think that's amazing.

spk_0:   24:14
Yeah, um, it's been really fun, as, uh, we were, like, almost two years married, so we're still very newlywed, but it's actually I was kind of nervous about us, like being in the same from home, like all day together. But it's been so fun and like we went on a oh on a walk on Sunday, this past send it and we were like, I'm so glad we actually like each other should know, like Bruce Lee. Really? Just enjoy spending time together. So on top of like, having a gym in the house, I'm also really thankful that I have a husband who I love You like Yeah, that difficult. You know, so

spk_1:   24:55
well, I mean, I think, Yeah, it's been amazing to see the the things that come up that we can Cole ticket took cultivate gratitude for in this time. Um and I know at least for me, it's been people so much of it. It's like, er, as things get stripped away, his experiences gets stripped away. I can't go anywhere I want these days, you know, it's like, OK, people, uh, what are bringing life right now?

spk_0:   25:28
Pressure. And like even we found our side and we find ourselves like, face timing our family more as that way We talked. We checked in, like, once a week with them, but now it's like, pretty consistent, you know? Yeah, we just let's all we got. So that's what it really changed our priorities. And I think some healthy ways and summon lt, but a lot of healthy ways to

spk_1:   25:52
Okay, so you mentioned that you and Michael are exercising together. Um, what would you recommend for, say, a family? Or for a couple? Um, who's wanting to engage movement, engage some sort of exercise in this time? What would you recommend for them as they're trying to figure it out together?

spk_0:   26:15
Uh, yeah. So I always recommend to people to do movement that they actually enjoy. So if you're let's say you're a Yogi and your friend wants you to do hit workouts with you all the time and you just actually hate it, I didn't do yoga, you know, like, do men that you actually enjoy staying with like, Oh, I love to run. And a lot of people don't like running like I don't understand how you do that, and I might Well, just don't do it. Then you do what you like, So I think as a family kind of figuring out like what you would enjoy together or so, um obviously were limited and equipment, So probably some sort of body weight movement. I personally love circuit training where you kind of build together like, let's say, you have three circuits and each circuit has three movements and you do like 15 reps of each movement for three rounds, and that kind of creates a little bit of like a slow. That's less so, like you're not gonna have a coach. But you have this slow that you're following. Um, there's a lot of, like, really great Um, thank God for the Internet because there's a really great videos on YouTube of, like, yoga or hit training. Or there's mobility on there, which is really great. You can kind of search whatever exercise that you enjoy and do that as a family. I wouldn't I always suggest people to, like, actively committed to moving for at least 30 minutes a day, and then after that, your everything else is just a bonus, you know, like, if you do decide to go on a walk later, Yeah, bonus. That's great. You're got your 30 minutes and I you're you're getting more energy. So

spk_1:   27:54
yes, it going back to that what you mentioned earlier about whether your winds, if a win could be 30 minutes per day of some sort of physical activity.

spk_0:   28:06
Yeah, 30 minutes. That's kind of my goal for myself and also for my clients right now. is, and it doesn't have to be. It's not going to be the physical activity that you're used. Teoh. Let I I face time some girlfriends last night. Who from home, Who One of them goes to orange theory and she's like, Yeah, they're giving me online workouts, which is not the same. And I'm like, uh, you don't have a role work, you don't have a bike and you know, treadmill, you have all these equipment, so you got a kind of em till whatever inflow to like what you're you have right now, so it might not be the same, but challenge yourself. Still, with our bodies air so capable of capable of so much and they're really a really good piece of equipment so we can actually use them to get a really, you know, good exercise in, um, and maybe that exercise for you, Like my neighbor is obsessed with walking. She's asked me to go walk with her a couple times at, honestly cannot keep up justices, and I'm like, so slim it walking in the shortest legs. But for me or for her, that's enjoyable. And so for you, that's just getting out and going for a 30 minute walk today, you know?

spk_1:   29:17
So in college I had to take a fitness class, and the only thing that worked in my schedule was race walking on. I fell in love with it. It was this guy who trained Olympian rates, walkers and

spk_0:   29:30
what i

spk_1:   29:31
e It is a thing, you

spk_0:   29:34
know, because I went on a walk with our neighbor Becky the other day and I, like, literally left. I left it to and I told Michael I'm leaving, and I came back, like, 40 minutes later. And he was like, Oh, wow, like that's pretty quick off. Are you? Walk? And I said we won't three my way. Walked so fast, I'm dead. My watch died like everything I was like. I don't know how she does that. She is the fastest walker on

spk_1:   30:02
E. Lovett. We're all gonna be race walking on. So china keep six feet away from each other, You know that? Oh, that's so good. I love it. And so what about someone who is not with, um, other people in their house? He's alone. What would you recommend for them?

spk_0:   30:25
Um well, just shameless plug here. I do have a non online half program that gives you 30 minute workout today and it's all body weight right now. Um, and I'm currently offering that Teoh Teoh people. Their first month is free just cause we're in this, like, crazy time.

spk_1:   30:42
So that's awesome. Yeah, tell us about

spk_0:   30:45
that. So that's a good way. It's I mean, it's it's on my Web site at Seoul fitness dot work, but essentially, like, it gives you a workout every single day to your phone. Uh, that you can dio from home. That's body way only, and it's videos of me explaining and going through the movements and then, like, written out instructions. But on top of that, you also get put into a man accountability group with, like all the women or men who are doing the program. And they, um, kind of cheer each other on like, did you do your workouts day? I just finished mine. My legs are burning. You know things like that and also champion you thio thio, get your movement in without pressure, obviously And then, um, you also get a daily devotional. So, um, it's kind of a place for you toe move your body and also like, let your mind get some rest. It's close, hopeless soul move your body and your mind. So, um yeah, it kind of seed you a little bit of truth along with that. And then you, upon signing up, you get a little nutrition guide to help you along the way with It's an easy snacks and how to build a plate and, um, intuitive eating. And you know all that good stuff.

spk_1:   31:56
Do you recommend peanut butter pencils on there?

spk_0:   32:00
Girl, I e. I would just be lying.

spk_1:   32:04
Teoh get you 17 and better presidents, I think

spk_0:   32:11
apples and peanut butter bones. I

spk_1:   32:16
love that. You know, you're giving the practical need, but then you're like of actual fitness recommendations. But then you're also giving accountability and encouragement. And I think especially during this time, um, that's so needed because we're used to the face to face just kind of life as it goes conversations and and here we are with a totally different routine. And so have that structured accountability. I think is so good to celebrate. And Teoh keep cheering each other on

spk_0:   32:49
for sure, and it's something you can you can do on your own time. But it also like, kind of holds you accountable at the same time. Something like, if you go to bed, you're like, today I didn't get my 30 minutes in. No one's gonna shame you for that, but it's kind of like this. Like, I want to make my group proud. Um, eso there's that aspect too, which has been really fun, especially. I don't know about you, but I've had so much more time in front of my phone lately. Like I'm I'm a terrible texter. I'm really gotta texting people back. And I'm like, one of those who reads it in my head. I say, I'm gonna answer this later once I'm done with this and then I completely forget. But now I'm like an all star texture. Right now, I'm gonna read it. I'm an answer, because what else is there to do? So the group is really fun during now, because befalling metal give her and you know, they're just constantly communicating this. What else are we gonna be? Oh, that's

spk_1:   33:42
awesome. Yeah. These days for me texting, I just feel like I descend the word homeschool back to everybody in the O DJ E. I love that. That's awesome. Yeah, instead, and then you have the devotional as well. Are you the one writing that?

spk_0:   34:03
Yeah, I write it. And then I also have an intern who's one of my soul girl. She's a college student here, and she writes some of them, too. And she's amazing. Um, so, yeah, it's all just kind of like it's always based around some scripture for the day and then kind of just gets riel of like, especially right now. It's getting really, really like God is our refuge. Well, what does that actually mean right now, when we're when everything's out of sync? And he seemed it seems really easy for him to be our refuge when, like the Waters air still, but now, like everything's crashing in. So how do we probably adjusted on What does that actually mean to us? You know, like kind of little challenges throughout the blank.

spk_1:   34:44
That's so good. Yeah, to really, um, really pressed into those truths in the In the Valley season in the hard season is is so good,

spk_0:   34:56
it's it's good. I mean, I always find that I don't know about you, but I like, see God or experience God more. Maybe during the times of, like, suffering. So they're, like, sweet and hard at the same time, because you draw, you draw really nearer Like I need you, like, really struggling at the same time. And sometimes when I'm just like Soren and everything seems great, I tend to forget I, like, put him on the back from her, And it was just a good way to, like, bring him back into food. Gathering out.

spk_1:   35:31
Yeah, I think that goes back to what you were saying about reordering priorities. Maybe that's the the theme of this time is we get to to really figure out what our priorities are in as a distraction, and dizziness gets stripped away. Um, we get to focus to refocus and to, um, to re prioritize and just sit with award.

spk_0:   36:00
Yeah, for sure. And like going back to movement. A lot of people just think that they don't like fitness and they don't. They don't like movement, and and maybe you don't right now, but this could be a really good time for you to explore what kind of movement you actually do. Like and like, really create a new love, you know? So, you know, maybe it's been something that you were scared or intimidated by because you hated going to a gym or being compared to other people. But now you really get to, like, break it down to its purest form and move how you like moving and figure out what that IHS while you're kind of cooped up in your house, Um, and then more confidence After it said, Go out and tackle something new once this is over my girls in group class, they always make fun of me because I always scream out like fitness is still fun. You're crazy. It really has become, like, spun to me. Hmm. And so, like, maybe this is a time for you to, like learn what it means to enjoy movement And what that specific movement is for you.

spk_1:   37:06
Yeah, I love that. And I love the idea. Like being curious about it. I can hear you at this time. Let's be curious about what it is that you enjoy in trying new things and figure out what it is that that gives you wife as you move. Well, thank you so much for this great just wisdom towards moving our bodies and and even a healthy mind set towards that I'd love for you to talk a little bit more. He said soul fitness dot org's is where your app is.

spk_0:   37:40
Yes, the soul Fitness. That organ is my website. And on there there's different tabs ones for online training, and that will lead you to the A. So essentially you sign up online, and then it will start. It'll send an email to, like, downloaded to your phone and it gets on your phone. You can also do it on your computer if you want, And then if you use the coat still stuck right now, Uh, d I s C I l l s t u c k um Check out. Then Your first month is free. And after that it's only if less than a dollar a day so awesome. You gotta work out every single day Nutrition guide and those devotionals and accountability crew

spk_1:   38:24
11 and so we can connect with you for your website. Is there any other way to connect with you?

spk_0:   38:29
I'm a big instagrammers, so you can find me on Instagram at, um Soul s o l e underscore fitness or my personal Instagram is at I made a name I Sylvan changed it, but it's act K c o l l k call. Um so, yeah, I'm, like, always on the gram. You want

spk_1:   38:50
e love it? Well, cabins. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us. And later Toxie, Thank you so much. I loved it.