#010: Cultivating Creativity in a Crisis w/ the Laurent Collective.

How can we use creativity to cultivate more openness and overcome challenges? We sat down with Maya and Patrick Laurent from the Laurent Collective to discuss how creativity can help us during the COVID-19 crisis and we came up with a few creative tips for relieving stress. 

In times of survival, it seems like creativity is one of the first things to go. “I’m just trying to make it,” we tell ourselves, “I don’t have time to exercise my creative side.” 

Yet, being creative is part of what makes us innately human. After all, we were made in the image of the Creator God who engineered the world, dreamed up all living creatures, and painted the Earth with countless colors. God imagined, dreamed, spoke, and so it was. What does that say about who WE are? 

Be sure to check out Episode #010 of the Live the More podcast to learn how you can naturally and enjoyably create during this crisis.

The Laurent Collective is a bold, creative family business that wants to inspire you to flex your creative muscles!


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Transcript

spk_0:   0:02
welcome to the live The more podcast will re explore going deeper and intimacy with God finding meaning and satisfaction in

spk_1:   0:10
our day and making a lasting impact in our world. Well, hello. I am Alison Jordan with live the more podcast. And today we have Maya and Pat lor it with us. I'm so excited to have you guys. Hello. You guys air with Lauren Collective. And I'd love for you to tell us a little bit about that and about yourselves.

spk_0:   0:32
Yeah, we're Laurent Collective. I'm Pat and this is my my wife. And we're, ah, husband, wife, team that we have come together to create, uh, artistic creative brand. Um, that has, at the moment a lot of prints and encouraging and biblical phrases that we selling had out there. But But we also have some other products and things that were starting to launch us. Well, um, at the moment, but yeah, our big thing is that, um yeah, we just want to create things about encourage people to live into their passion and give things. And so we want to create these things that people can have around their house or different tools or different things or products that can just really encourage people to step into their gift things in their fashion. So,

spk_2:   1:20
yeah. Yeah, big thing is we just like infusions to tenants of that. We believe everybody is a masterpiece. Created do amazing things in this world. And so we hope that our work does that and helps encourage people to step into those things. But we also have some fun things playing. Hopefully that can help people stuff. Is that even more? And we just want encourage families and everything Teoh not only in current times, but always of ways that they can connect and just connect with each other too. Yeah,

spk_1:   1:48
I love that. That's so great. So how did you guys get started with this? With this creative endeavor?

spk_2:   1:59
You think creating since you were a child,

spk_0:   2:03
but learn collective innocence really has been going on for about 13 years. It initially started. I used to work in the advertising world. And so I was an art director for about 10 years and then kind of stepped out and did some freelance work. And during that time of freelance work, I was just wanting toe start creating things for myself and those things. Actually, people started to enjoy those things that I was creating for myself. And so I started selling those things. And yeah, so about 13 years ago, it started out called being called quiet Boy Studio. Um, and after that, then it's kind of slowly evolved into some different things. Anything from, Ah, we I used to hand paint vinyl records. I did a lot of, uh, Bible verses. We did. I didn't would signs. I usedto ham pink. What signs? And they think that. So it's just been a kind of a process that we kind of evolved. And we've done a lot of custom work for people of different things like that as well. Yeah, so it's It's been kind of a 13 year journey. It's been really fun. And so recently about what? About a year and 1/2 ago, Um, Maya came on board, and more is more kind of the business. And, um, she's just got a really creative mind. Very organized mind keeps me kind of in check because me being more of the creative side of it, I Yeah, I can't keep things in order and all that kind of stuff. So she keeps me in line and it's been an awesome. It's been an awesome partnership toe. Bring my into the to the mix. We've been able to start doing some really fun things, which has been really fun.

spk_2:   3:51
Yeah, I used to have a photography business, only lived in the States Eso That was kind of my trade of outlet and now it's, uh, moved to London. First it was getting the family refocused and getting used to life here in London. But then it has, yes question to now you know where to take over or in collective in many ways and then helped direct it in, steer in some different things and just paying attention. What people are asking for and when they need, and what is for helpful for them, is resource is to encourage them. So, yeah, we continue to be able to do that. It is a fun way to reach out to people on due to start conversations of people. It's an easy competition starting base, including tempos, conversations about God, or have conversations just about life in general with, um

spk_1:   4:34
wow, I love it that you're working together on this year you've come together to kind of put your both of your skill sets to use your able Teoh not only enjoy that together, but really impact other people. That's really

spk_0:   4:52
yeah, it's been really cool because it really has turned into We've kind of noticed certain things that got us put into both of us, that because of our marriage, because of us being together as husband and wife, we've realized these fashions and these give things that he's created in both of us. And then the reason why and a big reason why he's brought us together is in some ways to do this stuff. It's it's kind of made its way into being a business, but just being able to love and encourage people into knowing that their masterpiece and how do we then launch them out into those things and to help them understand and really, yes, step into how they've just been created by God. So it's been really, really fun into the kind of start. As our marriage has progressed, toe start to kind of see those things and being unearthed a zoo, you've kind of grown closer together and just kind of started doing things together. And so it's respectively fun.

spk_2:   5:49
We involve work incident to, so they're often we'll call them the worst and best critiques. This'll Do you know what that's working on? Something that we have ones in the coming in. So I don't like that color. But is that what duty? Well, ago. So into me, Another one That's really good. The technology. So hill off to meet the person. If I'm on a new app trying to figure it out that I'm like Please help me here And he just takes over and Josie And then you know, So there are they're all coming up with ideas, healthiness and that kind of thing or something that we're not very good that we need to separate.

spk_1:   6:27
I love this family initiative. I was telling my eight year old son this morning how a long time ago families would work on farms and they would all work together. And I love that now as we're moving into this technological age or we've been there for a while, but even more so in this crisis, your family's air able to ban together run technology. Yes, that's awesome. So you mentioned your faith and wanting Teoh really help See others developed, Um, through your creativity, I'd love to hear more about how you feel like your creativity and your your spirituality, your faith wife intersect and how one builds up the other the

spk_2:   7:16
I mean, I think for us hope for all. I'm speaking. So say for me in particular, you know, God is the ultimate creator, and so Teoh know that then because God created us. But then we have that and us as well. And so I think what people get caught up on because I can't even look at Pat's creativity so I can't draw. I can't draw six acre my kids. And I don't like Mommy to draw Daniken draw much better literally. There have been times where I've drawn something because that okay, that's so good. Like No, just in that. So I think it caught up really easily in that Well, I don't have that kind of creativity, but God's given me unique creativity like I really like right, and I like to take photos and those kinds of things, and I think those are all even traditional creativity. There's things that I think people who code and you're like computer stuff. I don't understand. Um, you know, the fact that I just called a computer stuff shows that, but there's creativity and that and how people do that or how they do finances and things like that. And so I think it's no matter what you're gifting, is there some way that creativity is in that, even if it's not that traditional creative way that we think of it? Yeah. So knowing that I want to try and the attention of what those things are that God has given me And how do I use those not only to use those to bring glory to him and to have people ask more about God and those kinds of things, but also like just to be in touch with God. So for me that maybe brightening and it could be something that I'm writing that no one will ever see in fact hoping majorities don't But, uh, what and how that I connected gun and that and how important that is for me and you? I think so. The same way was withdrawing and

spk_0:   9:05
yeah, I mean, honestly, I feel exactly the same way about the idea of creativity and what it is, it's It's not something that you know. Most people say, Well, a creative person is somebody that paints or whatever you know. Creativity is really just solving challenges and things obstacles in front of us. And so, whether whatever profession or whatever hobby or whoever per parental thing that you're dealing with, or whatever there's, there's always an opportunity to be creative in that situation. On DSO, I think, um, yeah, I mean, like my said, you know, God is the ultimate creator and so I think, you know, and we're reflections off him. And so obviously where in our deepest core, we're going to be creators. And so, yes, I mean, I think that that's just kind of in a big way, how intersex and I think in a way, if if we're all kind of living into that creativity that God has given us like the world would be and just amazing, like everybody kind of stepping in and kind of unearthing, really the way God has kind of needed you together. Um, you know, because we all are a unique in our own way. That didn't just be some really amazing things. We would see heaven here on Earth, and it just it would be so cool toe to see that. And so I think that's again. That's why we love doing what we're doing, because we want to continue to encourage people into that. So

spk_1:   10:33
but I love what you said. That creativity is solving challenges and overcoming obstacles. And so it's not just confined to a certain medium of her model of art or certain modality. How would you say that? That a person can grow into that? We're even develop a mindset to to allow for more, um, openness to solving challenges or overcoming obstacles? Yeah, it's a

spk_2:   11:05
really good question, especially right now, because we're all dealing with annual obstacles you've never had before. Um, or they're at a heightened level for sure s So I think you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this at the grocery store where there's just certain things that I normally would tend to cook and you can't right now. And so it's looking at what's available and what can I make and be creative with that? Yeah, uh, very obscure sometimes. But what does that mean? And what does that look like? And I think it's It's see you never want, Like, what piques our interest? What One of the things that tend to do a coup. I'm interested in that or I really like that thing. Or there's something that I'm drawn to that for some reason and then dive units that more and then on the So I see this picture and I want to paint that exact thing, Um, or anything like that. But just why do I like that? And what is the reason behind it and figuring out diving deeper into that? Um, anything when it comes to being creative with with obstacles that we find him? We're finding that right now I mentioned the cookie thing, but even everything from you know, learning her whole learning and on all of that stuff of finding ways to be creative and finding new ways of things when you see a challenge and saying, Okay, this is figure out a ball. How can find a way to figure it out? It may not be perfect in the end, but can't. Are there things we can at least try, be willing to fail, but be willing to try because it might work. Come in here as we go. And I think that's been huge on a leaner business but also with our kids and this time to saying, Hey, look, this is new for you guys. This is new for us, and we're gonna try these things and you have to tell us what you like and don't like a swell. There may be things regarding just if you don't like them to serve unhappy with your schoolwork. However waken, try some new things that that I think it's just trying to be creative in the way that you look at things. And I think the big part of it is trying new things. Uh, and we're trying things differently. Then what you've done in the

spk_0:   13:06
past. Yeah, I think I think just giving it a go. I mean, what whatever that is, Whatever. That channeling whatever that obstacles in front of you. You know, giving something to go creates, uh, new opportunities in that you know, you you learn through that that try you learned in that try and and like my said, Whether you fail or succeed, you're gonna learn something from that step And so that's gonna take you into, you know, the next time that comes up or whatever. And I love the fact that, like our oldest son, he goes to a school in there. They're like, big model is they want the boys to learn how to fail. Well, and I would love that. We absolutely love the idea. They just want with a It's an all boys school. And so they they want the boys to just try things. And if they're gonna family, they feel that they're gonna feel well, and they're gonna learn from it. And so I think out of that out of failure, out of trying out of succeeding your you're gonna discover things about yourself that you didn't know before. And that is where I think some of the creativity and the new learnings of who you are and all that kind of stuff start to kind of come to the surface. And, um, just creativity kind of blossoms out of that. I

spk_1:   14:19
think, Yeah, I think there's something so special that I capture their of like when we have the freedom to fail and to get back up. Then we don't have that pressure to have it all together, to have the right answer or to be perfect or perfectly formed right at the get go. But we have the permission to keep growing into keep to keep blossoming into something new.

spk_2:   14:48
And I think that's been so important for me to remember that right now to in this in this season we find ourselves in because there's so much out there social media and those kind of things that are here's schedule. I'm doing the color coded central. I'm dreaming. My These are the 10 ways that I have learned how to knit to bake, to do you know all these things. And for me, I'm a personal likes to dio have stuff and get a lot of stuff done. I'm looking at that, thank you feel, but that's not how our house is going right now. That doesn't how it feels on DSO. I think just knowing we can try that color coded schedule. But it may not work for them because our family is unique. We all have different personalities and that kind of thing, and so we can try and make most likely doesn't can part of it. The fails, and so we can rework it from our family.

spk_1:   15:34
Yes. Yeah, that's so good. Yeah, I have, like, there every week. We're kind of like, OK, what didn't work? What work? What do we want to improve or change? And how do we keep going? And yeah, it's just ah, that being flexible, trying new things, trying them differently. Um, back to that idea that you mentioned, like Okay, there some people giving out schedules with color coded things. And, um, and baking this or doing that there. I read Ah, an article the other day that this guy said, If you're not learning something new and if you're not developing a new skill, you're wasting your time and there's this There's this idea that's been put out there of like you should be maximizing your time here. And I think it's easy to feel that on social media. Teoh like to see a picture of someone baked good or house or something, and to feel like, oh, I should be doing more. In what ways would you say that that feeling of, like should or the need to produce my inhibit creativity,

spk_2:   16:47
you usually have to really good thoughts on that.

spk_0:   16:49
I think just that you even said it, though I was listening to another podcast a couple days ago, and just the idea of that word should like that we should be doing this or we shouldn't be doing that where, um and that like, really resonated with me because he was saying, you know, they were talking about just that. The idea should. And basically we shouldn't feel like we have to be doing, you know, everything or anything right now. There's there's so many different ways, the process, what's going on in this season, Um, and to feel like you should be doing something, um can create, you know, ah, lot of stress and anxiety and different things that are kind of negatives that will hinder creativity or will keep you from kind of living into to certain things that you know you should be. And I think, um, I think we all kind of have to give each other grace and really kind of say okay, how, you know, just take it day by day. Really. I think that there's, you know, a process. At least I know for me for myself right now. you know, it's like, wake up. Okay, Like I've got the energy to do this today, you know, and how I'm processing this season is gonna look different day to day. And so some days I might have I might be full of energy to create or toe learn or two, you know, do things with my kids or, you know, all that kind of stuff where the next day could look fastly different. Um, and so I think that the word should be like, this should be maximizing. Um, I want to I want to be doing that. But at the same time, like ourselves to remember that, you know, there are other ways to be stepping into this time and being being rest ful and and paying attention to, You know, you know, you're paying attention to yourself, but also those around you that you're with or if you are, you know, there's a family with you and things like that. So I think I don't like the word Should I think it's just such a negative fame? Yeah. I think you put so much pressure on you right away that, um, that, uh, for me at least it would put a huge creative block up if I if I felt like I should be doing something.

spk_2:   19:02
Yeah, yeah, I I agree. I think for me there is a lot of pressure for some reason right now and it seems like it should be a time of that, actually has released more. And for some people, I think that it is I'm I'm so happy for them and I can see that. And then I think for me, actually, I have solemn. It's more difficult to learn new things right now may look different as we go further into this and however long at last. But for me in France, I was taking a course about something is a little bit more detailed, and I tried to jump right back into it, and my I just could not think for it normally as I would if I realize this isn't the time I'm gonna try it again next week again. I'm the cute trying and see if I'm ready for that. But I've just had to give myself a lot of grace in it to say OK, my mind is in 1000 different places right now. That's just how it is. One of the things that I can find that if it's time connecting with God, if it's journaling more, if it's reading, whatever it may be, um, finding a way till just kind of find ways to calm myself and connect with God and then try and see if I can learn something new. But that may not be the time for it on, but I think it is difficult because they are carrying a lot of messages about that. About learned this, do that. You know, there's all these people offering lives or free things now, and I for me again, I want to take adventure advantage of all of it. Yes, all of knowledge, big old friend stuff that I have to tell myself. Wait, that we still have so many hours in the day. We're dealing with something none of us have ever dealt was before. And we just have to take it like I mean, sometimes I feel like as a family, we're taking an hour by hour. Oh, yeah. Okay, what's next? So we think giving yourself a ton of grace in it and taking that information saying, Oh, I am interested in this. I'm for me. It sounds cheesy, but it made a little list of things I was interested in that if I feel like I'm ready to don't you know, go into one of those that I can and I don't forget about it. And I know in health care, but I'm also just taking 50 by day and saying drive energy for that. Yeah, you are kids. Am I able to even have time for him Because we have our Children at home, Things like that. So,

spk_1:   21:14
yeah, that's so good. Yeah, there's so many opportunities right now. Um, I have just seen so much generosity from the online space of Take this course or learn this or do this and it's amazing what is a ahead of us. Like what? We have access to you and I just love What you're saying is it just sounds like there's freedom to be curious and to explore. And there's also freedom to really just take note of Of what energy do you have? What resource do you have? What time do you have? And, um and I think as we navigate this global grief and stress, we're gonna be in different phases, where we're able to do more or less depending on you know what, what we're processing through. So I think that's so good. So you mentioned journaling and spending time with God. Um, Pat, I'm really curious, even with like, as you are doing art, I wanted to talk to you guys because I've been reading these studies that, say, by doing our or engaging in something like writing or or something like that. Then there are studies that have seen it reduces stress. It can improve mental health. It can increase happiness. There's even been studies that shows it boosts the immune system. And so I love to hear, like, have you been able to engage in our in writing or in these types of activities in this season in what has helped you do that?

spk_0:   22:59
Yeah. I mean, my my biggest thing, and it sounds kind of crazy. Well, that's not crazy, but I think I've tried to keep my schedule pretty much the same as what it was before any of this stuff started to happen. Um, and so that's been really helpful for me. I know. Obviously there's certain things that have changed and that are just gonna be changing from day to day, and it connects that. But the big thing for me is I've really tried to keep my schedule very, very similar. And like, one of the big things I always do is I, um I I start my day with a run, and and then that kind of gets my juices flowing and I might kind of awake. And then I come back and I and I sit with God and I spent some time with him after that run and then out of that, then I allow my space. I try to make sure that I have space I can just create. There's no agenda with it. It's just that I can have some time before the kids get up before you know, my probably doing her thing. And so I've just got kind of freedom in time to really kind of step into that, and sometimes it ends up being something that I might have been working on or that I'm doing for quote unquote work. Um, or other times it really ends up just being, you know, I'm just drawing and learning something are, um just tryingto try and get technique that I wanted Teoh just sending things like that. So I've got freedom and that. And so I think for me to be able to keep that schedule in the mornings has been really key, because our day at home has changed so drastically with having to do home schooling and, um, just different rhythms with the kids and just all that kind of stuff because that that has changed. Um, I've been able to keep that morning schedule pretty much the same. And that's really helped just how I feel in a lot of ways. And and I do think I I really haven't gotten our felt sick or, you know, like I have felt tired or whatever, because, you know, that has always been kind of the same thing for me on a daily basis, and it and it keeps me kind of energized during the day. So I might, you know, if there's something that I worked on in the morning, and it kind of sparked something that Aiken step back into later in the day. Then I, you know, I might have that create space in that time to be able to do that. And I've been creating other things outside of what I've typically have been doing. Uh, and you know, a couple other things that I just been trying to get other things out, other, like, materials are paints or things like that that I just haven't had up because of previous schedules and things like that. But now that we do kind of have some sort of freedom in that sense that we can't really goat anywhere, I've been kind of stepping in tow, getting some of that stuff out, Okay? But yeah, for me, I mean, I think just personally, it's been trying to keep the same rhythm. Yeah, that's been really key for me and just keeping my spirits up. And, you know, it doesn't mean I don't have my days where I'm my what's going on in that kind of thing,

spk_1:   26:12
But I

spk_0:   26:12
think you know, being grounded in exercise and being in the word and allowing my space for being creative, creative in my own way. Then that's really helping

spk_2:   26:24
you. I it's funny because that's he says, that I've actually had to give myself a lot of grace and letting go. My schedule because I am tend to be very organized, very scheduled and so well, he's getting up. I've been allowing myself to sleep more than I normally dio. I am like a eight hour Teoh have our normal circumstances. So I'm realizing just mentally and everything that's going on. I have been hit with sickness a couple times now and the time that we've been in to just give myself grace. And if I need to sleep for longer than fine, um, nothing world shattering is going to happen during that time, other than the kids coming in before I got up, if that's been taste. But at the same time, I have enjoyed my morning. So I have gone up and move my body. Have think this, he was saying, had sometimes gone, whatever that looks like. It had some time to journal. I have been practicing I something I was doing before, but even more important for me right now is just writing five things down every single day. And then I'm grateful for from the preview today and literally anyone. I think yesterday was the fact that, you know, I found eggs of the grocery store so it looks dramatically different than it used Teoh, but they are the small things that are helping me with that. And I think for creativity. I never found begging my kids the color with me right now because it's we've got all these coloring books and all those really Detikcom ones and the adult ones and all that, And it's something you can do and sit, and you don't have to really use your mind too much. You could just kind of be in it. So whenever they have spent yes, I'm very excited

spk_1:   28:02
to do

spk_2:   28:02
that because it just feels like I'm not have to use my mind too much, usually anise quietly or something like that, Um, and so that husband, something that has been something a little bit different than it's weird that that's something I'm crazy to dio. But I think it is because it uses your being creative, and but it's taking you to a different level, just kind of you. You're quiet and that kind of thing. We've been doing dance parties that their kids way just put on music and everyone gets to pick a song, and we just dance crazy and stuff like that. And it is a that is a creative way that our family is finding to relieve stress. And just, you know what? This is all over in. So we're just gonna celebrate it as it comes, not celebrate the fact that we're in it. But, you know, celebrate were here is a family. And yes, it's something you can do together. And so, yeah, I think it's it's important. And, um, how we connect with God because we are taking care of the vessel that gave us. First of all, I would try and keep our bodies moving and stuff like that. And it may just be no. Yesterday it was just a walk for me. It wasn't me doing extra and then what? I you know more than I normally dio um, but whatever that is and then and then finding unique ways to sometimes it needs that one Delicious. The store, our bedroom door, as the other person goes, does stuff for the kids with that prosecutor have a little bit of quiet time, whatever that may look like, because we're in unique situations where we don't have the some of the same rhythms and so we have toe find ways for till let each other do that.

spk_1:   29:32
It just sounds like you've been really intentional with rhythms that are meaningful for each of you and as a family as well. I love that yeller. Doing dance parties s so fun. We've been looking up, um, these dance videos on YouTube and trying to wear in the dances. Wait a couple way. Don't post them. We're not there yet. What are some other way? So you mentioned, like coloring with your kids dancing with the what are some other ways that you have sought to cult of a creativity as a family. One

spk_2:   30:23
of our Children loves to cook and bake, but something he have loved since he was something we had pictures of a message toddler up, but still trying to start stuff like that. So he had already got some cookbooks for his birthday. But it's been actually time that we've said, Hey, look, pick out recipes. If we can find flour and eggs, you could make them e, uh, having is going through flower pretty quickly. Actually, yeah, we're having lots of sweets and our house, that's for sure. Because of that, So we've. We've had all kinds of cake in all kinds of muffins and things like that, but he has wanted do. That's his way of being freedom. Yeah, flat and pretty much do it on his own. We help them figure out measurements and four things and the oven and things like that. But that has been something again. He was interested in it. And we said, This is an opportunity that you can do this now, huh? I think that's one way definitely is one of the things that they were already interested in. Our daughter loves makeup. Um, and so she has a bunch of old makeup that is like colors. I don't really bright purples and pinks and orange, anything like that. And she has are the attacks of this fingernails painted by her, But she have been often creating ourselves into unicorn, and it's just crazy make up with yeah thing, or she's a cat or whatever it may be again, and we've just said that's fine. Just look clean up the mess 100. I'm putting it on and that kind of thing. So I think he did. What are they interested in? We've also been doing? Um, just times that Pavel often draw something. You fold a piece paper, don't you?

spk_0:   32:02
Yeah, There's a couple fun drawing things that I do with the kids. Where on we've actually started this before any of this happened. So one of the things that we used to dio because we live in London, we write trance for a lot, and so it's really kind of hard to keep them kind of busy and that kind of stuff. So one of things that we usually do on the transportation stuff is all draw like they each have their own notebook that we take. And then I draw a shape on each page and then on within that shape than they can create whatever they want to you out of that out of that shape. So it's really fun. And, you know, it kind of makes all of our trips go really, really fast like myself. So we continue to do that at home. Now there's another one that I saw another artist that that I follow and really admire his work he does with his sons, where they fooled a piece of paper in half and then they draw too little lines like in the middle of it. And then on one side, one person drawls and asked, Whatever they have to draw connects to those two lines then and then they flip it over, and then the other person comes and they draw on the other side of peace paper, and it connects to those supplies. So then when you flap it open, it's like this big drawing that connects in a weird way. So you get to see that. So those are like fun trolling exercises that we do.

spk_2:   33:18
Our son, our older son, really likes music, so we have said You can have your fall until I get you to during the certain time. So he'll he'll look at you two to figure it out like a new song or something like that. And he's doing on the keyboard that we have and trying to figure out how to play that song and those kind of things. So again, I think it's been it's not one over On the dance party, everyone participates, but again because they're also unique. They're not all going to sit down to maybe do the same thing or a basis for a long period of time but finding what their unique thing is, um, as then what is helping them? I think having them find some creative, different ways. I bought talk because we do have a garden that we have. And I thought, Oh, this is gonna last long time. They went through its huge stick talk and they went through. One thing of it is particularly relevant in every square burn, which was not the intention done in 20 minutes. Okay, I mean, the things I keep them interested for looking her stretches of time but also again willing to try it and it failing. Sometimes Teoh has been the

spk_0:   34:26
money to buy. You know, we're not opposed to going online and finding fun lists of things todo list your kids and things like that. I mean, our kids, the ones that like to you know, drawl and color and all that kind of stuff there. They love going on YouTube and seeing drawing tutorials of different characters that they love to walk. You know, the cartoon shows and things like that. So I mean, yeah, I mean, we're not opposed to finding other things online and things like that, and that's been fun as well, like finding new things to do together as well. So

spk_2:   34:58
and a lot of there's so much again people prance about there, and so there's so many, especially with Children's authors and illustrators right now that are doing stuff. It may be alive, and it may not work with our time zone, but it's usually still on, and it's been on the website that we can watch it the next day. I mean, our family have left. I mean, there are so many great things that are out there right now that if we thought, Oh, we can't find them do that like don't want one of their instagrams or something like that to see what they did. And, yeah, I think that's just making the kids. I think they do something right then and there. But it will be the next day. You realize, oh, there, sketching something that was from nothing. We watched our that kind of thing. So it's just tryingto, yeah, be out there and see what else about a resource is we can use right now because we need all we

spk_1:   35:42
can write. Well, I love that that you keep coming back to that idea of what piques your interest. And so not only for yourself, but for your kids as well and helping them identify. Okay. What is it that that you're interested in? And how can you explore that and finding them resource is to really explore and try and fail and keep going. And so I just love that it you're being so intentional to even help draw that out of them as well.

spk_2:   36:16
We're trying our best way. Still often. Get in our house. You know, I'm so bored it has gone away recently because I think they've realized this isn't changing right now. Yeah. Oh, that phrase. Sorry that you're born, but this is real life right now. It is not a whole lot we can do to change it. So you could say

spk_1:   36:38
we keep seeing That's okay. You feel bored. Boredom is a natural feeling. That's totally okay. They just roll their eyes. I

spk_0:   36:49
have been wanting. I was saying that I feel bad saying it, but I'm always like, Well, there's always bathrooms to clean. Your uber CEO changes there, but they're

spk_1:   37:01
Teoh. I love it. Well, guys. Thank you. so much you'll have so much wisdom to share. And I love um just getting to cure a little bit about y'all in just what life is like for you right now. I'd love for you to tell our listeners how they can connect with you and find your stuff. Yes,

spk_2:   37:26
though we're pretty easy to find its Lorant Collective l a u R e nt just like the French spelling. So they were in collective on instagram on Facebook. And then it's also Lauren collective dot com for website Teoh. And there we usually a posting almost daily on Instagram from everything from I'm reverses to help just encourage people right now toe funny things as well. Uh, that we're just trying to put encouraging positive stuff out there for people to share and just encouraged by right now. That's how you find us.

spk_0:   37:58
You're gonna see your crazy family from time to time

spk_1:   38:00
in there. Thanks. Tick tock, dancing way. We'll be looking for thanks so much for listening. I hope you all have a wonderful day being heat of living more